In the latest episode of the Plant Based On Fire podcast, Bryan sits down with Martin Pytela, a functional medicine expert and metabolic typing coach with a mission to “Restore Vitality to You and the Planet.” Martin's journey is an inspiring tale of resilience, knowledge, and passion for holistic health, making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in plant-based lifestyles and sustainable health practices.
Insights You'll Gain From This Episode
Understanding Functional Medicine: Learn how functional medicine and metabolic typing work to address the root causes of health issues.
Personal Transformation: Discover Martin's journey from severe health challenges to becoming a health coach and entrepreneur.
Holistic Health Practices: Gain insights into detoxification, the importance of raw foods, and how to balance macronutrients for optimal health.
Environmental Impact: Understand the connection between human health and environmental sustainability.
Entrepreneurial Challenges: Learn about the regulatory and market challenges in the health and wellness industry.
Introduction to Functional Medicine and Metabolic Typing
Functional medicine focuses on identifying and addressing the root causes of health issues rather than just treating symptoms. As Martin explains,
“Root cause resolution is the flag we run with.”
This approach looks at the intricate connections between genetics, lifestyle, and nutrition to promote optimal health. Metabolic typing, a significant component of Martin’s practice, examines how an individual’s genetics and dietary habits intersect to influence their health.
A Journey Sparked by Personal Health Challenges
Martin’s path to becoming a health coach and functional medicine expert began with personal health struggles. After moving from Eastern Europe to Canada, he underwent dental treatments that left him with mercury amalgam fillings. Due to his genetic predisposition, Martin experienced severe health declines, including back problems, allergies, and weight gain. Traditional medicine offered little help, prompting him to take matters into his own hands.
“I was still smart, but unable to walk,”
Martin recalls. His journey led him to extensive research and learning from nutritional pioneers like Bernard Jensen. By 1995, he had transformed his health and founded Exula Superfoods and Life Enthusiast, two businesses dedicated to promoting wellness through high-quality superfood blends and holistic health coaching.
Restoring Vitality to You and the Planet
Martin’s philosophy of “Restoring Vitality to You and the Planet” is deeply integrated into his business practices. He emphasizes the importance of addressing industrial pollution and promoting organic, nutrient-dense foods.
“We humans are like fish living inside the environment. The whole planet is the aquarium and we are eating from it and we’re pooping in it,”
he explains. This holistic view underscores the interconnectedness of human health and environmental sustainability.
Challenges and Triumphs in Entrepreneurship
Building a business in the health and wellness sector is not without its challenges. Martin highlights regulatory pressures, competition from established industries, and the need for constant innovation. Despite these hurdles, his commitment to holistic health and sustainable practices has driven him to create impactful solutions.
“Since I know how to solve 90% of the problems, because 90% of health problems, as long as they're not injuries, are food, air, water—the inputs,”
Martin says. His approach focuses on detoxifying the body, providing essential nutrients, and promoting healthy lifestyle habits.
Promoting Health and Sustainability
Martin Pytela’s journey and insights offer valuable lessons for plant-based business entrepreneurs. His dedication to restoring vitality through holistic health practices and environmental sustainability is a powerful example of how business can be a force for good.
For more insights and inspiring stories, tune in to the latest episode of the Plant Based On Fire podcast. You can also explore Martin’s work and resources at Life Enthusiast and Exsula Superfoods. Together, we can promote health, vitality, and sustainability for ourselves and the planet.
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Episode’s Transcript
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Bryan (00:00)
Hello everybody and welcome to Plant Based on Fire, where we talk about plant based businesses and their inspiring stories to thrive in our industry. I'm your host Bryan. And joining us today is Martin Pytela, a proven functional medicine expert and metabolic typing coach. Welcome to the show, Martin.
Martin Pytela (00:20)
Thank you. My pleasure, really.
Bryan (00:22)
I appreciate you being here so I wanna go back in time and learn like the history and how you got into all this stuff but for those people that are maybe new to this kind of space a little bit, tell us a little bit about what is a functional medicine expert and a metabolic typing coach.
Martin Pytela (00:40)
Right. Well, functional medicine is defining itself as not allopathic medicine, as in we don't treat symptoms, we look for causes. Root cause resolution is the flag we run with. And that means we don't treat you for symptoms. Second thing is metabolic. Metabolic typing is a branch.
Bryan (00:56)
Love it.
Martin Pytela (01:06)
that understands how genetics and food intersect. It's our ancestors and where they lived. Up to the Industrial Revolution, up to maybe 200 years ago, people didn't travel so much. They would be born and grow up in a particular agricultural village, not a large city. Large cities were the exception. So a child is born in Switzerland.
Bryan (01:26)
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (01:34)
in an alpine valley, he eats whatever's there, right? Probably sauerkraut, probably cheese.
resources were limited, right? Anyway, there are all these theories that are well supported by Weston O. Price having traveled around the world where he said, so long as people eat their indigenous diet, they thrive. The moment they switch to the industrial diet, aberrations, tooth decay, genetic problems and so on.
Bryan (01:48)
Yeah, absolutely.
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (02:10)
And then there's the pottinger who studied his cats. He fed one group cooked food and the other group raw food. And turns out that cooked food is really detrimental. Seventh generation was infertile, unable to reproduce. Anyway, so that's the genetics behind it. So now fast forward 21st century.
Bryan (02:26)
Wow. Yeah.
Martin Pytela (02:34)
We now have this melting pot where my Norwegian grandfather is marrying somebody who's got a mix of Africa, Asia, and who knows what else. So the metabolic typing, a quiz that's online with about 120 multiple choice questions allows us to get back to how do you deal with food? What's the genetics telling your body today?
Bryan (02:43)
Yeah. Yep.
Martin Pytela (03:03)
and it's the how you alkalize or acidify and how you gain weight and lose weight, those are answered in that result of the test.
Bryan (03:14)
Awesome. Well, I appreciate that overview. That definitely clarifies it in a big way, I think. And let's, let's go back in time. Like what started you on this journey to say, look, I want to build some career or on functional medicine, metabolic typing. And you went from like, I think a management consultant to founding life enthusiasts and it's, it's Exula, right? Is that the other company?
Martin Pytela (03:27)
huh.
yeah, totally.
Yeah, right. Yeah, I have two hats. One is the Exula Superfoods where we manufacture high quality, higher end superfood blends. And in my other hat, I am also running a retail business online store called Life Enthusiast. The way I got to this was of course a disaster. I grew up in Eastern Europe. My genetics are...
Bryan (04:02)
Hehehehe
Martin Pytela (04:06)
Eastern Europe and Jewish. And I showed up in Canada and ended up in a dentist's office who convinced me that I needed fillings. I didn't understand what was coming. He just said, well, put in fillings. Well, they were mercury amalgam fillings.
Bryan (04:24)
Mm -hmm.
Mmm.
Martin Pytela (04:29)
And with my genetics, I'm not a great metabolizer. I'm not a great detoxifier. It's that famous MTHFR path. So I'm pretty bad at getting rid of toxic things.
Bryan (04:43)
Okay.
Martin Pytela (04:44)
So the next, after the 12 fillings went in, a fairly steep decline in health. So while I was still smart, I was also unable to walk. I had back problems, periodontal problems, weight gain, allergies, all manner of stuff. And trying to work it out with...
Bryan (04:51)
Wow.
Martin Pytela (05:09)
normal mainstream orthopedic surgeon chiropractor naturopath That was all chasing symptoms. We were all chasing. Well, you have a back problem. I'll give you an adjustment You have carpal tunnel syndrome. Well, I could operate on you Nobody asking what is the cause of this So at some point I had this meeting with myself Martin. This is not going anywhere
Bryan (05:18)
Mm.
Martin Pytela (05:37)
You are a systems analyst. You know how to do it. Right. And the answer was, you're going to have to figure it out. And I went to read books. This was 1987, 88, no internet. That was library time. So I read a lot and I figured it out. And by 1995, I met the founder of the Exula business who since passed on, I inherited it. And so.
Bryan (05:38)
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Martin Pytela (06:07)
Here we are. I was learning from the masters, Bernard Jensen and other nutritional kings of the last century.
Bryan (06:19)
Well, you look amazing and healthy now. So it worked. You've learned, you've, you've translated this and you've corrected these, these situations, right?
Martin Pytela (06:24)
Yeah.
Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, I'm now 71 and in my 71st, I promise you I feel a lot better than I felt at 35. Yeah. Yeah.
Bryan (06:37)
Wow. That's awesome. well, how, how do you sort of integrate that philosophy of, I think what I was reading was restoring vitality to you and to the planet into your business practices. Talk to us about that.
Martin Pytela (06:51)
Well, I've mentioned industrial age, right? The worst problems we have are created by our reliance on the industrial processes and thinking that that's all okay. There's a beautiful screensaver, I think it is behind you, an aquarium.
Bryan (06:54)
Mm -hmm.
Mm -hmm.
Yeah.
Martin Pytela (07:12)
And that's a beautiful metaphor for what we're living in. We humans are like fish living inside the environment. The whole planet is the aquarium and we are eating from it and we're pooping in it. It's the interchange, right? So everything, I mean, everything that we do ends up in the terrain. So since about 1800,
Bryan (07:16)
Mm -hmm.
Great.
Mm -hmm.
Right.
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (07:41)
First we started burning coal, then petroleum products, then the plastics arrived, then the fertilizers arrived, then the herbicides and pesticides arrived. And all of this is just piling in. You know, every ton of glyphosate that goes on the field is actually going to stay in the environment.
Bryan (07:58)
Mm -hmm.
Yeah, yeah, I agree completely. And my goodness, you look at the the river mouths of every major city on the planet and we're destroying the oceans. Yeah, yeah.
Martin Pytela (08:15)
Yeah, Mississippi Delta, the, Mississippi Delta, the cancer alley of United States.
Bryan (08:23)
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And so, I wish more people would wake up to that and make those small little changes. I know.
Martin Pytela (08:24)
Mm -hmm.
Well, and so the industrial process is convenient and it produces all stuff that they call food, which is cheaper than it's ever been. By volume production, you can reduce the costs. However, the benefits are going away. We're fed now nutrient poor calorie rich food like substances. It's a joke.
Bryan (08:34)
Mm -hmm.
Yeah.
Yep. Yep. Yep. I joke around. We haven't quite reached Soylent green levels, but that's the old movie from way back when. well, you know, this is an entrepreneurial journey, right? Like we have to learn to make some money along the way while we're trying to help change the planet. These two need to go hand in hand. So I'm curious what have been some of your challenges and building, you know, this health coaching, superfood business from the ground up.
Martin Pytela (09:16)
Yeah.
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Back when I started, that was your 2002, 2001, 2002. I thought, well, since I know how to solve 90 % of the problems, because 90 % of health problems, as long as they're not injuries like car accidents, bullet wounds and broken legs from skiing accidents, everything else is food, air, water.
Bryan (09:28)
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (09:50)
the inputs. So the return restore vitality to you. Well, that's that means detoxify, nutrient. Well, I call them toxicity, malnutrition, stagnation and trauma. Toxicity is stuff that arrives in your body that shouldn't be there. Malnutrition is the stuff you're missing that you should be getting.
Bryan (09:51)
Mm -hmm.
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (10:16)
Stagnation is lack of movement, lack of exercise, lack of lymphatic circulation and turnover. And trauma, well, there are emotional development issues and there are invisibles, especially the wifi, the electromagnetic soup that we're in. We are now in an electromagnetic aquarium too. And before 1800, there was nothing.
Bryan (10:39)
Right, right.
That's right. That's right. And, and to me, you know, it's, it's this, plant based journey that I've been on for 14 years myself. how do you think from your perspective, the plant based diet and intersects with metabolic typing and some of the other stuff that you do.
Martin Pytela (10:57)
Yeah.
Yeah, right. Plant -based awesome. For one, you probably end up with lots of raw. I really think that raw is great because you are feeding more enzymes. I actually was a vegan for a bit, vegetarian for years, but it didn't turn out all great because it's at the...
Bryan (11:15)
Mm -hmm.
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (11:31)
At some point I had my life insurance appointment and they did the blood analysis on me and they said you are suffering from great deal of cholesterol. What's up with you boy? And turns out that my metabolic dominance is turning carbohydrates into cholesterol really efficiently.
Bryan (11:43)
Mmm.
Mmm.
Martin Pytela (11:56)
And I thought that as a vegetarian, well, I can eat bread, I can eat potato, I can eat rice. Turns out, no. Turns out that I'm turning the starch into glucose, insulin, cholesterol, really efficiently. So, so that the picture, so yes, we know that the healthiest foods are the plant -based, especially the low starch version.
Bryan (12:04)
Mm.
Okay.
That's another.
Martin Pytela (12:24)
So all the leafy things, all the herbal things, the broccoli and the green onion of the world. I should mention a regular rocket and dive and that sort of thing, right? Anyway, so that's the story there. And of course, for me, I needed to supplement a lot of fats. So my health food is in fact olive oil, coconut oil, butter.
Bryan (12:36)
Yeah.
Mm.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, talk to us a little bit more about that, that like non -toxic detox process you recommend. and, and how does that tie into like the plant based world a little bit?
Martin Pytela (12:54)
What?
Right, yeah that's important.
Yeah, that is important. I found myself super toxic with heavy metals and that way out for me was zeolite. Zeolite is a naturally found mineral. It needs to be from a clean source and particular size reduced into very small particles. But once that gets into the body, it actually binds a lot of the toxins like mercury, lead, cadmium, uranium.
Bryan (13:15)
Mm -hmm.
Okay.
Martin Pytela (13:37)
It also binds volatile organic compounds like the Teflons and other plasticky things like phthalates and whatnot. So that was really efficient for me to get rid of a lot of these things.
Bryan (13:47)
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. How have you seen functional medicine evolving? You've been doing this for quite a while now. So how have you seen it change over the past 20, 30 years?
Martin Pytela (13:58)
Yeah. Well, there seem to be two branches. One is the MDs who switch to functional medicine and they feel quite entitled to charging $6 ,000 as an intake fee for the client. And they love testing. So they think nothing of running $2 ,000, $3 ,000 worth of testing on you when you show up.
Bryan (14:17)
Mm -hmm.
Yeah, that's right.
Martin Pytela (14:28)
I end up with the people who can't afford that. I'm not an MD. I'm not licensed anything. I'm not obligated to any licensing body. So I'm free to say anything. Of course, I don't have certain privileges, but at the same time, I don't have those obligations either. So I end up with people who are willing to spend 100 to $300, maybe a month.
Bryan (14:31)
Okay.
Right, yeah.
Martin Pytela (14:57)
on their food and healing, not the thousands of dollars that going to the medical people will require. So I call myself health coach. I could be also called health and engineer. And I do not work on healing an illness or diagnose an illness that's...
Bryan (15:04)
Medicine? Yeah.
Yep, absolutely.
Martin Pytela (15:24)
because I'm not licensed to do that. I instead educate people how to build their own health.
Bryan (15:30)
Yeah, absolutely. And what, what do you sort of see as, I mean, I guess you just touched on the regulatory challenges to a degree. Have you, have you encountered any on the superfood side of the fence too?
Martin Pytela (15:44)
Well, we need to make sure that we are in the CGMP certified. The US system is not permissive, it's punitive. Like in Canada, you have to apply to the government with your thing and you get them to license it and then you're allowed to make it and sell it. So that's the permissive system, right? Europeans are like that a lot too. In the US, there's a lot more freedom.
Bryan (15:56)
Okay.
Martin Pytela (16:14)
But the system is punitive. They tell you do anything you want as long as you don't do the wrong thing because if you do the wrong thing we're gonna come on you like a ton of bricks and so we go for the Making sure that we are compliant with the label compliant with the manufacturing The processes are voluntary, but not really voluntary
Bryan (16:25)
Yep, that's for sure.
Yeah, makes total sense. What projects are on the horizon for life enthusiasts and exula?
Martin Pytela (16:40)
Yeah.
Well, we're redoing all the labels. We're working on putting in better looking products, better looking systems. AI is on horizon. I'm wanting to teach AI how to replace me because the interviews I do with people are very similar. How do you feel? What's bothering you? Are you on any medications? Those questions are fairly structured, right?
Bryan (17:01)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. No, I think AI is going to change the world in a big, big way. And so those intakes triage pieces could be automated and then you can spend more time with the patient on the true diagnosis. Yeah.
Martin Pytela (17:15)
So I could.
Yeah, right. Yeah. The funny story for me is I remember about eight years ago, I heard John some last name, a VP of technology at IBM proudly saying, we played Watson and we're going to solve cancer. We're going to take all the Sloan catering information about cancer and we're going to solve it. And I chuckled because
Bryan (17:36)
Mm -hmm.
Me too.
Martin Pytela (17:51)
All of that mainstream stuff is based on the premise that pharmaceutical solutions can solve cancer. They're based on the premise that cancer is a genetic problem. It's not. Cancer is a metabolic disease. Anyway, that project was a total failure, absolute abject failure, because it's sort of like telling a
a sailor to sail from Europe to America while believing that the earth is flat. Can't be done. So that's technology, right? Be very careful how you do it.
Bryan (18:30)
There's far, yeah, far too many. That's right. Far too many external factors and stuff to go into that whole ball of wax for sure. That too.
Martin Pytela (18:40)
Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know how politically you want me to get with this rant, but the general belief I have is that it's money that's controlling the regulatory system and the people with money are able to tilt the playing field to their advantage. So the pharmaceutical system, health insurance, pharma, chemical, all of that are able to
Bryan (18:46)
Heheheheh
Of course, yeah.
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (19:10)
control things and essentially block useful methods.
Bryan (19:18)
I agree completely, but I do say the more aware you become of those kinds of situations and paradigms, the more important I say this on this podcast all the time. We get to vote with our wallets and our mouths every single day. So if you are following Martin or me, it doesn't matter what it is. Like go and buy more kale and eat your leafy greens instead of the.
Martin Pytela (19:41)
Yeah.
Bryan (19:42)
the cheeseburgers from McDonald's or whatever that is, and we can help change that in a big, big way by voting every single dollar we have the right way.
Martin Pytela (19:44)
Right.
Yeah, absolutely. That's a very important point. But not only any kale, go buy organic kale because...
Bryan (19:57)
That's right. Yeah. I am spoiled because I have kale growing in my backyard. So I go out and pick a leaf or two every morning and a munch on that. So I the
Martin Pytela (20:05)
Mm -hmm. Yeah. You know, there's another point. The most revolutionary thing you can do right now in this world is to grow your own food.
Bryan (20:14)
That's right. That's right. Yep. I got a big, huge garden. So I support that for sure. if you can't get your own garden, then pay somebody else to help you share their garden. so what this goes into this entrepreneurial space of it. So we are hoping that other plant -based businesses come around and join this movement and stuff. What advice would you give to someone looking to start a business in the health and wellness sector?
That's what I thought you were going to say.
Martin Pytela (20:44)
It's rough. You know, I talked to my wife about it just the other day and she says, man, I should have just bought a gravel pit. Because, you know, I could just ask people, do you want it quarter inch, half inch or one inch size and be just fine. What I'm faced with, the regulatory pressures, the gas lighting, the social media.
Bryan (20:54)
Right?
Right. Yes.
Martin Pytela (21:14)
platforms that are just totally suppressing information that is not in harmony with their owners or their advertisers. Follow the money, I already mentioned it once. It's a hard thing. It's a bloody hard place to be.
Bryan (21:19)
Mm -hmm.
Mm -hmm.
Yep. Yep.
So the lesson is definitely know what you're getting into and understand that it is a long journey to be successful. As altruistic as your intentions are, you do have to fight the realm of business needs to make money and be successful. So think twice before you jump in with both feet, right?
Martin Pytela (21:52)
Right.
Well, this thing is fraught with crocodiles all over or alligators. You know, there are, you do you know, there are many, many problems lurking. There are regulatory and there's competition and all of that. Speaking of competition, my competition is not another superfood maker. My competition is the pharmaceutical and chemical and grocery world.
Bryan (22:03)
Mm -hmm.
Mm -hmm.
Yeah, I would believe it. You have to understand as a business owner that it's typically not your competition that you're afraid of. They're sort of frenemies. I call that, but it is the older paradigms that you're trying to replace or maybe future technology. But, talk to us a little bit about, community engagement. Like how do you engage with the bigger community and promote that message of health and vitality?
Martin Pytela (22:37)
Yeah.
Hmm. I don't have a lot to say on that topic. We are posting and I contribute all the time. I have a telegram channel called Life and Go. I do post on Facebook, but they are quite narrow in what they let me say.
Bryan (22:55)
Mm -hmm.
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (23:08)
Likewise, my YouTube channel exists and I give away a ton of content, but a lot of that again is censored. So I'm having to be very careful what I say. Just last week, they put a, I don't know what you call that, strike one. I said, I said something I shouldn't have said and they,
Bryan (23:19)
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been there myself as a vegan who's fighting for the animals sometimes. I've gotten several of my Instagram accounts blocked.
Martin Pytela (23:38)
Yeah, okay. Yeah, you say it with spirit or with passion and they're all about it. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. There are plenty of challenges. So if you are either brave enough or if you just simply cannot help yourself, I mean, I pay this forward. I was helped by...
Bryan (23:44)
Yeah, that's right, that's right, yeah.
I hear you. You don't have to say anymore. So just.
Martin Pytela (24:06)
a whole lot of people back when I needed help and I'm just paying it forward. I'm just feeding the planet the best I know how.
Bryan (24:10)
Mm -hmm.
That's right.
That's right. Yeah. No, I appreciate that. I know that's why that's part of the reason we do this podcast to try and give tips and advice out. And I think people like you and me that can help mentor and coach the next generation of businesses that are coming up behind us is a great thing. So what can we do Martin as a community that's watching this, listening to this episode due to help you and what are the best ways to get in touch?
Martin Pytela (24:42)
Well, to help me, there's a website, life -enthusiast .com. Come down, take a look. There's plenty of free information available. You can educate yourself. Call us. We have three health coaches. Part of me giving is I educate people on staff. I help them get really clear. And we have health coaches, myself included, who are able to offer guidance.
into how you can get yourself from wherever you are to better health. There are some pitfalls that you need to understand. Metabolic typing offers you something akin to a user's manual, where you will predictably know what combinations will help you. And it's the macronutrients, proteins, fats, and carbohydrates, and how much of each you put into your food.
Bryan (25:27)
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (25:41)
is that's going to dictate your outcomes. And it's more the fats and carbs rather than the proteins. So there's a huge debate about whether a person should be a meat eater or not. And the ancestors predict that, you know, if your ancestors were living north of 60 living on seal meat and whale blubber, you will have really hard time becoming a vegetarian.
Bryan (25:49)
Yeah, yeah.
Mm -hmm.
Martin Pytela (26:09)
because your genetics won't let you.
Bryan (26:10)
Yep. Yep. Yeah. No, I definitely believe that the genetics play a big role on it. I, I like to dispel the protein myth as much as I can. I mean, as long as you're getting the couple of central amino acids, the human body is quite good at creating the proteins, but our genetics have definitely played a big role in, in figuring out whether it's more carbs or more fats or whatever we've evolved to throughout the years that we've been, you know,
Martin Pytela (26:27)
Yes.
Yes, correct. Exactly that.
Bryan (26:40)
generations living in certain regions on the planet. So, yep. So this has been very, very enlightening. I hope all the people out here got some good tips and tricks from Martin. Check out life -enthusiast .com and where do we get in touch at Exula?
Martin Pytela (26:43)
Mm -hmm.
They are sold on Life Enthusiast. So that's, there's, that there will be a standalone website one of these days, but at the moment there's not.
Bryan (27:00)
Perfect.
Awesome. Well, thank you again, Martin, for being here. We really appreciate you sharing some of your insights and experiences with us.
Martin Pytela (27:14)
Thank you so much for providing a platform for people like me to be able to put it out there. Thank you.
Bryan (27:22)
Awesome. Well, that is all the time we have for this episode of the Plant Based on Fire podcast. If you like this episode, please click that like and subscribe button down below and help share this with some other friends and family. And if you've got some good ideas for some other amazing guests we should have on the show, just drop us an email and we would love to reach out to them and have them on the show soon. Until next time, everybody keep that fire burning.
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